** An audience member yells "You Lie" at Obama during his speech to Congress. **
Obama had just said that illegal immigrants would not be covered under his health care plan:
The brave audience member in question was Congressman Joe Wilson (R, SC). As I type this, Joe Wilson is the #1 trending topic on Twitter.
As you probably know, analysis provided by the Congressional Research Service backs up Joe Wilson and refutes Obama's claim:
Kudos to Joe Wilson for speaking truth to power!
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, seated behind the president, offered her mother-of-five glare towards the Republican side of the chamber. First Lady Michelle Obama was seen shaking her head from side to side.
Let's hope Wilson has cleared all the skeletons from his closet! He's going to be scrutinized like never before...
Wilson’s comment has prompted immediate and intense reactions. “Joe Wilson” is currently the number one search item on Twitter, and perennial GOP saboteur, John McCain, called Wilson's comment “totally disrespectful” on CNN’s Larry King Live. McCain said Wilson should apologize to the president “immediately.”
Missouri Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill weighed in on her Twitter page: “Biggest disappointmnt (sic) of evening, the total lack of respect shown by one member for the President. Never acceptable to behave like a jerk.”
Members if the rowdy UK parliament are probably laughing. Undoubtedly, liberal Democrats will suddenly discover a profound longing for "dignity and decorum."
I, for one, hope Wilson doesn't apologize. Obama should apologize for his lies.
UPDATE II: Just to make things perfectly clear for the Obama drones:
The Congressional Research Office has provided analysis on HR3200…
In its subsection on health insurance subsidies (known as “affordability credits”), HR 3200 does state, “Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” That would seem to solve the problem, but it’s more rhetoric than reality. The bill contains no verification requirement or enforcement process for citizenship or legal residency, as exists for other federal benefit programs. The only verification required for the subsidies pertains to family income. Beyond that, as the CRS report notes, everything is left in the hands of the Health Choices Commissioner.
House Democrats defeated all attempts in committee to add an enforcement mechanism that would require proof of citizenship or legal residency for those getting subsidies.
Read more at Hot Air.
In its subsection on health insurance subsidies (known as “affordability credits”), HR 3200 does state, “Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” That would seem to solve the problem, but it’s more rhetoric than reality. The bill contains no verification requirement or enforcement process for citizenship or legal residency, as exists for other federal benefit programs. The only verification required for the subsidies pertains to family income. Beyond that, as the CRS report notes, everything is left in the hands of the Health Choices Commissioner.
House Democrats defeated all attempts in committee to add an enforcement mechanism that would require proof of citizenship or legal residency for those getting subsidies.
Read more at Hot Air.
Big hat tip to Gateway Pundit
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It was, in fact, a lie. Although certainly not his biggest of the night...
38 comments:
Great example for the kids to see. jerk.
Gregg: It was a great example. Kids should know that the president is a public servant and if the president lies, his fellow citizens will speak out.
Obama is an elected official, not a King.
I for one, applaud Congressman Wilson! There ought to be a lot more Representatives of the people with the honesty to speak up for the truth. I don't care if it's the President, or whomever...if he has the guts to stand against the will of the American people; standing before them and the world, and tell his lies...he should expect EVERY time he does so...to be shouted down...
...and exposed for the liar he is.
NO president should be allowed to lie to us, and NOT be called out by OUR Representatives!!
We stand behind you, Congressman Wilson...Bravo for you!!!
At least we know there is ONE person in that den of thieves who will stand for us!!
Anon: I am very pleased with Congressman Wilson. We need to see more of this.
Did you hear - he already bowed under the scrutiny and apologized.
In some ways I can respect the fact that he did - after all, he's supposed to be a professional, even if the POTUS is not...
Way to go Joe. The American people are not buying what this President and Democratic leadership are selling. They are worse than a snake oil salesman that stood in the back of a pick up truck. At least with the snake oil salesman when someone said no he went on his way. The President and the Democratic leaders are trying to force it down our throats.
Gregggggg, Obama lied, like, a bajillion times in that speech. Wilson only called him on one of them. And I don't want to crown Wilson king I just want to take him out for a cold one.
Soloman: Yes, I saw that. I wish he hadn't apologized, but I can't blame him for doing so. I'm sure he was under a lot of pressure, even from the GOP.
Anon2: It was the highlight of the night for me. One speck of truth on a mountain of lies.
Anon3: Finally someone had the courage to speak up and stop Obama in his tracks. Love it!
cephas: Good point. Obama is lucky there was only one Joe Wilson in the audience.
“H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.”
Wilson should NEVER apologize. Has Van Johnson been called out to apologize for calling Republicans "Assholes" in a recent speech and saying that "white people" are polluting and destroying minority communities? Has Obama apologized for not once, but twice, lying and saying that physicians perform unneccessary procedures on their patients and put their patients' lives at risk to get a higher reimbursementfrom insurance companies? Don't think so. We are not subjects to a king. We are citizens. We reserve the right to speak out against what we perceive as abuses of power by our government. Obama is NOT above reproach. I only wish that the GOP were not such a bunch of cowards and would all start calling him out on his deceit of the American people.
Kacy: Wake up and do some homework. Don't believe everything the politicians tell you.
The Congressional Research Office has provided analysis on HR3200:
In its subsection on health insurance subsidies (known as “affordability credits”), HR 3200 does state, “Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.” That would seem to solve the problem, but it’s more rhetoric than reality. The bill contains no verification requirement or enforcement process for citizenship or legal residency, as exists for other federal benefit programs. The only verification required for the subsidies pertains to family income. Beyond that, as the CRS report notes, everything is left in the hands of the Health Choices Commissioner.
House Democrats defeated all attempts in committee to add an enforcement mechanism that would require proof of citizenship or legal residency for those getting subsidies.
Read more at Hot Air.
KelMom: I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment. Unfortunately, Wilson has already apologized.
Nice try Kacy, if that were the actual final bill and we were dealing with honorable people all would be well...but it's not the final bill(3200) and in it's present form there is no "controlling legal authority" to enforce the provision. Are you really that gullible to believe that the same government that expanded medicare and medicaid and lies to it's people every day is going to enforce that provision?
Despicable and disgusting behavior on the part of a congressman in the chamber. No wonder the crazies are out there. tThey are all being encouraged by the right wing nutjobs. Shameful. We will get nowhere like this and I am a Republican. I'm so ashamed of my party I could cry. We have real differences but acting like school yard bullies won't impress anyone. The american people deserve better. Let's debate the issues but no, even a congressman sgouts out in such a totally inappropriate manner. Too late I'm afraid because we just polarize things further and we lose. Don't y'all get that?
Anon4: You're so ashamed you could cry? Really? Because of this one little outburst? I find that hard to believe. I also find it hard to believe you're a Republican. When is the last time you voted for a Republican?
Debate the issues? Obama doesn't want to debate the issues. He wants to force his radical agenda on us.
Obama says the time for debate is over.
Yes, indeed it is. In fact, Obama hasn't met with GOP leaders for health talks since April.
Anonymous..you're 'so ashamed of your party you could cry'?
I could cry about the other party's attempts at bringing socialism to America..THAT's a crying shame.
BUT, I think Wilson was absolutely RIGHT in his opinion of Obama and WRONG in doing what he did.
THIS is the kind of thing that makes us look so bad. I know a lot of conservatives don't care how things look, but I DO and I think we all should because we are LOSING in the minds of the American people because of the msm and they LOVE to take these things and blow them up. If Democrats do things like this, who HEARS IT? Very few, but let the media get their teeth into something like this by a Republican and it's EVERYWHERE.
I didn't see McCain's comments but he's wrong, too...I'd not have criticized Wilson as hard as he apparently did, that's just self-serving in my opinion.
I'll bet Wilson didn't say what I'd have said if I blurted it out and had to apologize "I'm very sorry for showing disrespect to this president, but I am right and he's wrong and I can't LIE About THAT" heh
And to hear Michelle Obama shook her head from 'side to side'....how condescending..
Typical of her; as if anybody cares about her opinion or needs to see her opinion of Republicans ... Typical Bob Gibbs type of behavior on her part; no surprise.
What AWFUL people.
Z: I'm not sure many American's are going to care about Wilson's comment except to the extent that the news media shove it in their face. But will soon be forgotten by rank-and-file voters. News cycles are short, and 9/11 anniversary coverage will soon drown this out.
My opinion is that the talking heads are going to portray Republicans (and conservatives) as evil, greedy, stupid buffoons no matter what GOPers say or do. So conservatives might as well say and do whatever needs to be said and done...and give the talking heads something to talk about.
Um - The CRS didn't say anybody lied. They simply concluded that there are some holes in the effort to not spend any money on illegal aliens. The bill needs to be tightened up. Wow, that's a surprise. A bill hasn't even come out of committee and it has a glitch.
In case you don't know, virtually every significant piece of federal or state legislation has lots of mistakes when it comes out of committee. Even after many drafts, many laws are adopted with serious mistakes, and frequently are followed with a "glitch bill." When someone stands up and gives a speech about what the law is supposed to say, but turns out to be wrong because of a drafting goof, that doesn't make them a liar. Everybody legislator knows this. And any legislator who calls someone a liar over something like this is, himself, a jackhole.
One more thing. Obama was talking about "his" plan, not HR3200. He didn't write HR3200 and it is not "his" plan.
And one more thing. How about getting half as riled up about the Repub lies about death squads and such.
Easy for the Repubs to whine when their "plan" is nothing but a few pages of fluff. Just barely more detail than the first release of their budget ... which you may recall was just a cover with nothing inside. LOL.
Hi RightKlik: Excellent analysis of the LIE fest.
I was so proud to when Mr. Wilson said the only statement of TRUTH during the whole staged show.
Too bad he had to apologize, but like you write, the pressure is enormous. I do hope he is a squeaky clean as a new born puppy, because they will dig up dirt on him, and manufacture it if they can't find it.
Gotta love a guy with principles and guts!
I'm glad you sat through this too, you always write such informative pieces. I went for the comedic angle, cause it's so depressing.
I too blogded on this today..
Wasn't that a sight to be seen!
Joe Wilson did a great job!
Joe Wilson for Hero of the hear!
Let's hope that Wilson's campaign coffers overflow.
UmDecided: "The bill needs to be tightened up. Wow, that's a surprise. A bill hasn't even come out of committee and it has a glitch."
RK: No kidding. The bill needs a lot of tightening up. Obama and his friends in Congress would know that if they'd read the bill. But they scoff at those who insist that lawmakers should read the bill before they sign it.
Obama and his allies in Congress need to slow down and read the bill and work out the glitches. If Obama had gotten his way, the bill would have been forced through Congress already and we wouldn't have had the opportunity to discuss these problems.
Your claim that the issue of coverage for illegals is merely "a glitch" is patently absurd. It's not merely an issue of tightening up loop holes that have been overlooked. House Democrats have defeated all attempts in committee to add an enforcement mechanism that would require proof of citizenship or legal residency for those getting subsidies.
UmDecided: "...many laws are adopted with serious mistakes, and frequently are followed with a 'glitch bill.'"
RK: There's no excuse for sloppy legislation. We should hold our lawmakers to a higher standard. This legislation won't go into effect for another 4 years (giving Obama a chance to get reelected before we begin to feel the pain). So if we can wait 4 year for this bill, we can slow down and get this bill right before it passes.
UmDecided: "Obama was talking about 'his' plan, not HR3200. He didn't write HR3200 and it is not 'his' plan."
RK: Obama was pushing as hard as he could to get HR3200 rammed through congress before the August recess. This IS his bill. Here is what Obama said in his speech: "There are also those who claim that OUR reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false."
(emphasis mine)
If Obama says he will refuse to sign a bill that doesn't close the loopholes for illegals...then he'll have some credibility on this issue. I'm not holding my breath.
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I'm not going to invest a lot of effort here defending the Republican Party, but I will say that there are a lot of good alternatives to HR3200.
AB: Definitely depressing. The battle is young.
IMWTK: It was a breath of fresh air.
Anon5: I agree. I think he did the right thing. Presidents don't have an inalienable right to give uninterrupted speeches full of lies.
TLV: He said exactly what I said during that speech, exactly the way I said it.
NG: I'm ready to send some money his way.
While I disagree with the way Joe Wilson handled himself, but adamantly agree with his sentiment. I have to give him some kudos for actually feeling so strongly about the healthcare issue. He was certainly more passionate about his ideas on the issue than our dear President is. But, regardless of who that President is -- is not acceptable.
As for the speech, I did not watch it, because I knew in advance that I wouldn't believe anything that Obama would say. .
An American Girl: Good decision on not watching the speech. I usually just read the transcripts.
RightKlik - Of course the President is a "public servant". So is Wilson. So is the cop on the street. But there is a right place and a wrong place to express dissatisfaction, debate and disagree. On international television in Congress where the President, I believe, had to be "invited" to speak in front of Congress, making Wilson and his colleagues the host, is so appalling wrong that it's unbelievable. A child would be reprimanded for speaking up in that situation. Wilson will probably not be censured; he'll probably make the talk shows instead. It may be outdated to use the word, but Wilson has shown that he is not a gentleman. He could be brilliant; I might agree or disgree with his views. But he's still rude and disrespectful. We have one President, one Commander in Chief. Vote against him; support his opponents, but please don't embarrass the country in front of an international audience. Next time I expect Wilson will throw a shoe.
Embarrass the country? Obama seems to have that market cornered. What a disgrace this guy.
Gregg: Were you this indignant when Muntadar al-Zaidi threw the shoe?
DaBlade: I've never seen libs put up such a fuss about decorum.
RightKlik - No, I was relieved it wasn't a grenade. And he wasn't a US public official with obligations. Good heaven's. We criticize ball players for not being good role models. What kind of role model is Wilson? My point is - unless you're a revolutionary -- you have to respect the institution of government. This was not a private person speaking. This was an elected official totally disrespecting the President of the United States in an extremely public forum. Do you think we live in a vacuum? Don't you think the entire world talks about this sort of thing?
I still can't believe that he did that.
Gregg: "Do you think we live in a vacuum? Don't you think the entire world talks about this sort of thing"
Yes, and I'm glad international observers have had the opportunity to see that Obama is facing fierce resistance.
And, Yahoo's STILL COVERING FOR THE @#&*()# president..GO FIGURE.
RK, you have a point about kids and lies...I just wish we had the same old America where people didn't HAVE to yell something like that, you know?
Z: Yes I agree. In a better world, we would be struggling with political rivals, not political enemies. But I think those days are definitely over.
What sickens me is not Obama’s pathological lies, it is how the most of the media is there with a broom to constantly clean up his lies and make the whistle blowers look like the persons telling the lies.
As well, Harry Reid has never apologized for his accusing of Bush of lying, nor do the media acknowledge all the times Bush was shouted down and treated rudely in Congressional addresses.
See this article: AP fact-checks Obama speech
Obama reminds me of a stalker/sexual predator that harmed my family, this guy constantly tries to pathologically spin the lies into what he sees as the truth to convince others of his innocence (BTW, I am not saying that President Obama is a predator, but the similarity in how they act is frightening and so is the fact that this man loves Obama!
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Carl: Obama would be the junior senator from Illinois if not for the help of his media friends.
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